Kaspersky Antivirus 6.0.2.546

___jonnyfartypants___

Most input is appreciated when it's accurate. Could you explain where you found evidence of the following.

" " " " " " " " " " " " "

AOL VIRUS EULA

AOL's virus shield is just a single Kaspersky scanning module (no rootkit detection) KAV uses several.

And those sneeky fukers at AOL have bundled it with Malware!!!

" " " " " " " " " " " " "

I appreciate that you meant well, but to add to the confusion, what do you guess this would suggest, particularly in relation to RootKits.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9691/skasperskyprotectionincee1.jpg

Hard facts are what counts. Hope you can produce some for the benifit of those in need of quality at the best, ummm, price (and least amount of effort).- - - - HNY.

___jjonnyfartypants___

The sole reason for my interjection at 9down is to help the average user (the many) who were caught out by the Blacklist Bombshell.  Most of these people will never comprehend anything that involves effort, wouldn't you say, even to the extent of reading past this sentence.

I share your philosophy to a large extent.  While I am still running KAV 5 on some machines (legally, it *was* worth paying for) and KIS 6 on others (not so legally, not worth paying for), I also have some freebies for comparative purposes i.e., Avast, AVG and AVS.  I have not delved into KAV 6 so I can't, as yet, directly compare AVS to KAV 6.  KIS 6 is a different ball game and I'll bet that Kasper will hope to sell a few KIS's as a result of the AOL thing.  He has an ADD in AVS for his other products, non obtrusive, I hasten to include. While v6 is supremely efficient at doing what it is supposed to do, I for one, will never pay for it.  I won't elaborate because there are many, many, factors about it's drive-ability that don't turn me on, especially in KIS, but also in AVS, which dosen't matter so much, it's free.

So far at least, and I emphasize that, with my humble ability I have found absolutely no evidence that AOL are inflicting Spyware, Adware, or Spam.  As you know, EULA's always try to cover all possibilities - plus some, and I'm sure that any such freebie would include the same crap that AOL has.  If they invoke it, it's not to hard to guess what the result would be.  There has not yet been any evidence of these things being invoked, just criticism of the EULA.  In my experience, *nobody* actually reads a EULA, even the companies that produce them.  They mostly just keep using the same EULA for all their products regardless of whether it's relevant or not.  How many times would you see things in a EULA that contradict what is said in the product it's pinned to?  If anything is invoked by AOL~Kaspersky, guess who is going to be the biggest looser.  It would be one for the books if someone be penalized should they contravene an agreement by not allowing malware, even in an AOL arena.

In relation to the ToolBar, I never use them nor recommend them, and it is optional during the install, or removable later.  Infact both the ToolBar and AVS can be uninstalled quite cleanly, which is surprising.  The little that's left is easily got rid of.  
Note - to remove AVS, you must turn off everything from inside the program to be able to Exit from the Tray, then uninstall.

I'm not picking on you man, but the pic (pardon the pun) of your Protection Screen is the KIS version.  Where it states "Hack Tools" it used to be "RootKits" in previous builds of KIS.  We cannot compare KIS to KAV, or AVS, because KIS is a *complete* security solution, whereas the others need third party tools to fill the gaps.  Also, the controllable options in KIS are far more enhanced.  A downside of AVS is that there is no option to *Trust* things except by very cumbersome command-line switches that would never be used in the everyday situation.  Another stupit thing about AVS is that it assumes that we are on the Net while doing the install - not me baby.  At the end of the install wizard, it gives us the option to activate our legal key online (av not running yet) and then ReStart to complete the installation.  Lucky there is an option to activate *later*, which should be the only option.  We are talking *security* aren't we?

I think I am beginning to bore myself even, but, the crux of the matter is that AVS would be a better option to those who would consider Avast, AVG, etc., and want to avoid the maintenance required to keep the real Kaspersky updated (not to mention its ongoing fee).

Oh, while AVS updates its database through the Kaspersky Lab's servers, that would surely encompass RootKits, unless it's purely a facade??

Thanks, but I'll keep using AVS (and the others) until it becomes necessary not too.

Exactly!

But really, I needn't have said anything at all.